Oh, wow...Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. That was so incredibly racist that it leaves me in shock.
Thanks for reading "aurelius."Peace & Revolution
fantastic critique. well written and easy to understand. i was horrified when i saw this skit and horrified to see the media's analysis of it.check out this video that Black students made as a response to FOX News. as a teacher, it might be validating to know that your work is producing such smart forms of dissention. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYg4N1_9zEg
Belle: Thank you:) very much for your kind and supportive response:)Peace & Revolution!
First off, you know I love you and have the utmost respect for you. I want you to know that I have a little trouble agreeing with your commentary – specifically the crux of your argument wherein you analyze ‘white’ people’s use of BEV (Black English Vernacular – if this term is derogatory/offensive, I apologize. That’s what it was referred to as in my Etymology class). I would like to see the facts and figures to prove that “non-blacks' use of stereotypical "black speech" occurs in rigidly segregated settings -- not just high school cafeteria tables but in all-white or mostly white suburban neighborhoods where middle, upper-middle, and upper class youth”. Perhaps this is your experience, but my own experience vastly different. For example, in poor white rural neighborhoods such speech is frequently used. This is not because those white people “have only seen black people on TV as mockery” – rather it’s their exposure of the black community through media outlets. Now, if you consider BET, Dave Chappelle, and other performances a mockery of African Americans, well, that’s another discussion. The best sample I can give you is one where in the early 90’s a white teen boy’s bedroom (located in the quintessential white trash mobile home) was filled with posters of Tu Pac, Dr. Dre, and Snoop. In that neighborhood, country music was something only the old and/or southern whites would listen to. Also, I have crossed paths with people living in the city of Chicago who use BEV. These people aren’t necessarily living in the privileged parts of the city. Rather, they come from all different parts and all different backgrounds. Now, the lines get blurred some because I dare you to define white. Is a person of Cuban, Dominican, or Mexican decent white? Is a person from Russia, Poland or Ukraine white? I can guess you would classify the former category as a person of color whereas the latter category you would say are white. But what if they are first to be born in America? What impact does class have on “whiteness” – if any at all? What happens when someone of color who is NOT black uses BEV?The point is that I have met unmistakably white people from poor intercity neighborhoods that speak in the very manner you are describing. These are the parts where THEY are the minority. Are you suggesting that despite the fact that this white individual has grown up in a primarily black community that they should attempt to speak white and that anything else is racist?The performance is – as many SNL performances are – a commentary of society the way it is now. Throw away all niceties, the mainstream media pimps black culture to white people. No, it’s not right. Yes, it is racist. But blasting the entire white community without facts and figures breaches separatist. Rather, the media for it’s proven, studied, and obvious marketing and selling of black culture to white people is the catalyst for this behavior. Stop and ask a white person whether they consider the use of BEV by a white person to be racist. I guarantee most would say no. Blasting white folks for unknowing acting racist is almost like blasting African Americans for being uneducated due to geography.Now, after your thought provoking entry do I disagree with your final conclusions? Not entirely. I think the skit was racist, but not intentionally. Does that make it OK – of course not. Should SNL have been more sensitive to the Inuit people and made a much more effective skit out of Palin’s racist actions toward them? Hell yes. But please, please I beg, use caution when blasting an entire group of people based race. After all, the end goal here is total inclusion and acceptance, right? Isn’t the end goal an understanding of everyone’s struggle and bettering the entire human race as a whole?-----On a side note – Palin only came out of it looking somewhat OK because they didn’t let her TALK much on the show. As long as she sits there with her vacant stare and smiles, she doesn’t look like the white devil we know she is. I feel like the skit was more like a liberal eye roll at her than a conservative elbow-rub. Hell, Tina Fey did a better job appealing to conservatives by her jab at the media in the introduction.
Thank you for your thoughtful post, "S" -- but mostly, thank you for your friendship and love:)**1st) Re: the term "Black English Vernacular" -- I am only vaguely familiar with the term and *entirely* unaware of its roots in scholarship -- meaning, I don't know who coined the term or how the term is defined, so I can't say I am offended by it as I don't understand it yet. If, for example, the term was first used by an African American who explored the complex varieties of dialects in U.S. black communities -- then I wouldn't be "offended" per say. I may have questions but I wouldn't necessarily be offended. If a white person entered black communities to study the various dialects, and thus, coined the term -- then I would also have questions. Sometimes:)!! I don't get offended until I've seen all the "facts":)**2nd) Re: poor whites use of what is *stereotyped* as "black speech" -- thank you for noting the absence of a discussion of or specific reference to poor, working-class and lower middle class whites in my commentary on white folks' use of what is stereotyped as "black vernacular." I did not mean to imply that no and low-income white folks *did not* use stereotypical "black speech" -- because of all the reasons you mentioned. I wholeheartedly agree that white folks from all class backgrounds use what they believe is "black" dialect *and* that their use of said dialect is informed by popular/cultural outlets such as BET -- and in hip hop videos, in general -- as well as films & tv shows that feature black folks as "prop" characters (like "She's The Man" & "Baby Mama," for example) but also films & tv shows directed by black people -- films/tv shows that features all/mostly black actors (like Tyler Perry's "Media's Family Reunion," for ex). Black comedians such as Dave Chapelle, Chris Rock etc.,.(Whether or not Chapelle's comedy is a mockery of African Americans depends on the audience. If the audience is black then the jokes are "in group" -- meaning, that for better or worse, black folks are laughing at themselves and some of the things they laugh at can be construed as racist stereotypes of blacks folks. Now, when white folks laugh *at* black people -- when white folks laugh at these racist stereotypes -- that's a lot more complicated, and for me, not desirable because of white folks' social location/white power & privilege in a context of institutional racism. Chapelle felt this way too, which is why he stopped doing "The Chapelle Show." He believed the show had departed from its original goal of subverting white supremacist discourse on African Americans, and instead, evolved into a minstrel show because white audiences were now laughing *at* Chapelle (and therefore, black people, or at least, who/what white folks believed black people were) -- a black man -- who frequently performed racist stereotypes of black folks.**3rd) You wrote: "...I have crossed paths with people living in the city of Chicago who use BEV. These people aren’t necessarily living in the privileged parts of the city. Rather, they come from all different parts and all different backgrounds. Now, the lines get blurred some because I dare you to define white. Is a person of Cuban, Dominican, or Mexican decent white? Is a person from Russia, Poland or Ukraine white? I can guess you would classify the former category as a person of color whereas the latter category you would say are white. But what if they are first to be born in America? "-- Again, you raise an important point.First, I want to make it clear that I do not believe race is *real* or biological. In other words, I don't believe that human beings are *genetically* white or genetically "black" or genetically "Latino" etc., I believe that race or racial categories are an invention -- an invented idea that has been used to create a very real historical set of racist practices that function on an institutional level. So, "race" itself isn't real (though many people believe it is quite real genetically) but "racism" is very real. *Racial identity*: is a social and political construction where is racism a social, political, and economic *reality*.Next, keeping in mind the notion that race is an ideological invention -- I *do not* profess to define a person's *sense of their own* "whiteness" for them -- meaning, if a person sees themselves as white then I would not tell them they were wrong -- that's not my place. If a person sees themselves as *not* white, I wouldn't dispute that either -- again, it's not up to me to *tell* anyone what their racial identity is (or gender identity is etc.,).I *do* make a distinction between someone's *perceived* racial identity and whether or not they access *white privilege*. For example, as you point out -- there are people that belong to a variety of racial/cultural/ethnic groups -- folks born inside *and* outside the U.S. -- people who consider themselves multi-racial *or* biracial because they have one parent who racially identifies as one race and another parent who racially identifies as another race (Ex. a Puerto Rican woman who has a child with an African American man, for example) *OR* they have parents who are themselves multi-racial or bi-racial (Ex. a woman of Haitian, Filipino and South Asian descent who has a child with a man who is of Egyptian, Iraqi, and Norwegian descent).In the U.S. context -- a person who self-identifies as multiracial, biracial, a person of color *OR* a European "mutt" (i.e., a mixture of various European ethnicities such as French, Italian, Finnish etc.,) may be *perceived* (or viewed) as white by people of various backgrounds. So, no matter how that person sees themselves -- they are treated a certain way because of how *other people see them*. That treatment translates into a slew of racial benefits/privileges/advantages if/when that person is read/viewed as/believed to be "white" -- no matter how that person views themselves.Third, the census permits "Hispanics" or "Latinos" to define themselves as "white" or "non-white," and thus, acknowledges that many Hispanics and Latinos self-identify as white. When I use the term "people of color" I am referring to people who are *perceived/viewed* as non-white *and* people who define themselves as *non-white* despite how they are perceived by others. **4th) You go on to say: "What impact does class have on “whiteness” – if any at all? "In the United States, I believe class impacts a person's whiteness, again, with regard to how they are perceived by others *and* how they perceive themselves.Poor white folks for example -- are frequently and unquestioningly called "white trash" -- (a term that I believe is racist & classist when it is used by those who are *NOT* poor whites *OR* people who are/might be called "white trash". In other words, poor white people can call themselves whatever they want. I am not a poor white person, so I don't use the term in a derogatory way *nor* do I think middle & upper class white people should use the term in a derogatory way. For me, the term "white trash" is meant to identify a white person that is *doing "whiteness"* badly. Poor white folks do white badly by being poor, for example, because white folks are supposed to tbe the cream of the crop! they are supposed to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps! set an example for those "lazy" black people! they are belong to the group who deserves the best jobs because white people define *competency* and *qualified* for *all* people -- white folks set *the* standard for all that is pure, good and brilliant in the U.S. Therefore, white folks that engage in "white trash" behavior -- or a stereotype of what poor white people behave like -- are *not* living up to standards of "whiteness" that, in large part, middle and upper class white people have defined for *everyone* who is white *and* everyone who is not white. "White trash," so to speak, because of how they dress, speak, and spend their leisure time -- act a lot like African Americans perceived to be behaving badly.In short, the term "white trash" signifies a *degraded whiteness* -- a kind of "whiteness" that is affixed to a white person's class status.So, yes, in the United States -- I see class status elevating or diminishing a person's "whiteness" in respect to how that white person sees themselves *and* how a white person views/interprets the behaviors, morals, and even *value* of other white people.**5th) "What happens when someone of color who is NOT black uses BEV? ... I have met unmistakably white people from poor intercity neighborhoods that speak in the very manner you are describing. These are the parts where THEY are the minority. Are you suggesting that despite the fact that this white individual has grown up in a primarily black community that they should attempt to speak white and that anything else is racist?"No, I *do not* mean to suggest that at all. White people who grow up in all/mostly black neighborhoods may or may not speak, behave (etc.,) a certain way because of their specific cultural context.See, I wasn't just talking about white people performing stereotypes of "blackness" -- I was trying to say that there is no such thing as "talking black" or "talking white." ***Alright -- I've got a lot of grading to do so I will have to add any necessary refining points to my response (to your response) later:)***But here's a teaser:) You say, "Throw away all niceties, the mainstream media pimps black culture to white people. No, it’s not right. Yes, it is racist. But blasting the entire white community without facts and figures breaches separatist."1) When you say the "mainstream media pimps black culture to white people" -- I agree -- *AND* I would add that it isn't just an amorphous "mainstream media" that's doing this -- it's an obscenely wealthy white dominated mainstream media selling black culture to a white audience. The hip hop industry, in particular, is run by white male executives who make billions by exploiting white people's fascination with racist stereotypes of black like.Yes -- black rappers/black people participate in this racist stereotyping of black people. I believe that institutional racism so limits black people's choices -- so limits their economic opportunities -- that making millions by putting on a minstrel show for a racially diverse audience becomes an attractive gig.2) When you ask me for statistics verifying what I believe is the frequency with which white folks use (what they perceive as) "black vernacular" -- it feels like you're asking me to *PROVE* that the racism I'm identifying and experiencing exists. If you want statistical evidence that proves exactly how many white people use stereotypical black speech -- you won't get it from me. I don't have it -- I don't think it's fair for you to ask me for that nor do I believe I need to provide it -- the evidence is everywhere -- it's on tv, in the movies, in magazines, and I experience it so often as a black person I couldn't recount all the instances for you here -- there are simply to many. You're right, certain exaggerated, stereotypical aspects of African American culture are so integrated into the U.S. American "mainstream" that although I am provoked to roll my eyes when a white person talks to me using the perceived "black" lingo they heard on the radio that morning -- I would exhaust myself if I said something every single time that happened to me.3) I don't think that *not knowing* something is racist or *not intending to be racist* gets a white person off the hook of having to acknowledge that what they are saying or doing is racist.All of us are exposed to and internalize all kinds of oppressive messages every single day - messages that encourage our participation in sexism, classism, abelism, xenophobia, racism etc., That's why it's so important that we think critically about these cultural messages. That's why it's so important that we *LISTEN* -- really listen to what the people who are most directly impacted by these oppressions have to say. Because it isn't possible for anyone of us to simply "get it" all by ourselves -- we need to be taught -- we need to welcome the opportunity to learn. We can only learn, though, if we are willing to acknowledge that we *DO NOT* know it all -- that we will make mistakes. And the only way we will become better educated, more aware people with regard to our participation in oppression is by stepping out of our comfort zones and engaging people who are different than us.4) As for your comment that I "blast the entire white community" or generalize about white folks which borders on "separatist" -- did you mean to say something else there?:) Do you mean "separatist" or do you mean "racist separatist?"I'll address that comment later."S," thanks for engaging me in a VERY lively, interesting, and very complicated discussion -- I always liked that about you:)Peace, Love and Revolution!
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Oh, wow...
Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. That was so incredibly racist that it leaves me in shock.
Thanks for reading "aurelius."
Peace & Revolution
fantastic critique. well written and easy to understand. i was horrified when i saw this skit and horrified to see the media's analysis of it.
check out this video that Black students made as a response to FOX News. as a teacher, it might be validating to know that your work is producing such smart forms of dissention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYg4N1_9zEg
Belle: Thank you:) very much for your kind and supportive response:)
Peace & Revolution!
First off, you know I love you and have the utmost respect for you. I want you to know that I have a little trouble agreeing with your commentary – specifically the crux of your argument wherein you analyze ‘white’ people’s use of BEV (Black English Vernacular – if this term is derogatory/offensive, I apologize. That’s what it was referred to as in my Etymology class). I would like to see the facts and figures to prove that “non-blacks' use of stereotypical "black speech" occurs in rigidly segregated settings -- not just high school cafeteria tables but in all-white or mostly white suburban neighborhoods where middle, upper-middle, and upper class youth”. Perhaps this is your experience, but my own experience vastly different.
For example, in poor white rural neighborhoods such speech is frequently used. This is not because those white people “have only seen black people on TV as mockery” – rather it’s their exposure of the black community through media outlets. Now, if you consider BET, Dave Chappelle, and other performances a mockery of African Americans, well, that’s another discussion. The best sample I can give you is one where in the early 90’s a white teen boy’s bedroom (located in the quintessential white trash mobile home) was filled with posters of Tu Pac, Dr. Dre, and Snoop. In that neighborhood, country music was something only the old and/or southern whites would listen to.
Also, I have crossed paths with people living in the city of Chicago who use BEV. These people aren’t necessarily living in the privileged parts of the city. Rather, they come from all different parts and all different backgrounds. Now, the lines get blurred some because I dare you to define white. Is a person of Cuban, Dominican, or Mexican decent white? Is a person from Russia, Poland or Ukraine white? I can guess you would classify the former category as a person of color whereas the latter category you would say are white. But what if they are first to be born in America? What impact does class have on “whiteness” – if any at all? What happens when someone of color who is NOT black uses BEV?
The point is that I have met unmistakably white people from poor intercity neighborhoods that speak in the very manner you are describing. These are the parts where THEY are the minority. Are you suggesting that despite the fact that this white individual has grown up in a primarily black community that they should attempt to speak white and that anything else is racist?
The performance is – as many SNL performances are – a commentary of society the way it is now. Throw away all niceties, the mainstream media pimps black culture to white people. No, it’s not right. Yes, it is racist. But blasting the entire white community without facts and figures breaches separatist. Rather, the media for it’s proven, studied, and obvious marketing and selling of black culture to white people is the catalyst for this behavior. Stop and ask a white person whether they consider the use of BEV by a white person to be racist. I guarantee most would say no. Blasting white folks for unknowing acting racist is almost like blasting African Americans for being uneducated due to geography.
Now, after your thought provoking entry do I disagree with your final conclusions? Not entirely. I think the skit was racist, but not intentionally. Does that make it OK – of course not. Should SNL have been more sensitive to the Inuit people and made a much more effective skit out of Palin’s racist actions toward them? Hell yes. But please, please I beg, use caution when blasting an entire group of people based race. After all, the end goal here is total inclusion and acceptance, right? Isn’t the end goal an understanding of everyone’s struggle and bettering the entire human race as a whole?
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On a side note – Palin only came out of it looking somewhat OK because they didn’t let her TALK much on the show. As long as she sits there with her vacant stare and smiles, she doesn’t look like the white devil we know she is. I feel like the skit was more like a liberal eye roll at her than a conservative elbow-rub. Hell, Tina Fey did a better job appealing to conservatives by her jab at the media in the introduction.
Thank you for your thoughtful post, "S" -- but mostly, thank you for your friendship and love:)
**1st) Re: the term "Black English Vernacular" -- I am only vaguely familiar with the term and *entirely* unaware of its roots in scholarship -- meaning, I don't know who coined the term or how the term is defined, so I can't say I am offended by it as I don't understand it yet. If, for example, the term was first used by an African American who explored the complex varieties of dialects in U.S. black communities -- then I wouldn't be "offended" per say. I may have questions but I wouldn't necessarily be offended. If a white person entered black communities to study the various dialects, and thus, coined the term -- then I would also have questions. Sometimes:)!! I don't get offended until I've seen all the "facts":)
**2nd) Re: poor whites use of what is *stereotyped* as "black speech" -- thank you for noting the absence of a discussion of or specific reference to poor, working-class and lower middle class whites in my commentary on white folks' use of what is stereotyped as "black vernacular." I did not mean to imply that no and low-income white folks *did not* use stereotypical "black speech" -- because of all the reasons you mentioned. I wholeheartedly agree that white folks from all class backgrounds use what they believe is "black" dialect *and* that their use of said dialect is informed by popular/cultural outlets such as BET -- and in hip hop videos, in general -- as well as films & tv shows that feature black folks as "prop" characters (like "She's The Man" & "Baby Mama," for example) but also films & tv shows directed by black people -- films/tv shows that features all/mostly black actors (like Tyler Perry's "Media's Family Reunion," for ex). Black comedians such as Dave Chapelle, Chris Rock etc.,.
(Whether or not Chapelle's comedy is a mockery of African Americans depends on the audience. If the audience is black then the jokes are "in group" -- meaning, that for better or worse, black folks are laughing at themselves and some of the things they laugh at can be construed as racist stereotypes of blacks folks. Now, when white folks laugh *at* black people -- when white folks laugh at these racist stereotypes -- that's a lot more complicated, and for me, not desirable because of white folks' social location/white power & privilege in a context of institutional racism. Chapelle felt this way too, which is why he stopped doing "The Chapelle Show." He believed the show had departed from its original goal of subverting white supremacist discourse on African Americans, and instead, evolved into a minstrel show because white audiences were now laughing *at* Chapelle (and therefore, black people, or at least, who/what white folks believed black people were) -- a black man -- who frequently performed racist stereotypes of black folks.
**3rd) You wrote: "...I have crossed paths with people living in the city of Chicago who use BEV. These people aren’t necessarily living in the privileged parts of the city. Rather, they come from all different parts and all different backgrounds. Now, the lines get blurred some because I dare you to define white. Is a person of Cuban, Dominican, or Mexican decent white? Is a person from Russia, Poland or Ukraine white? I can guess you would classify the former category as a person of color whereas the latter category you would say are white. But what if they are first to be born in America? "
-- Again, you raise an important point.
First, I want to make it clear that I do not believe race is *real* or biological. In other words, I don't believe that human beings are *genetically* white or genetically "black" or genetically "Latino" etc., I believe that race or racial categories are an invention -- an invented idea that has been used to create a very real historical set of racist practices that function on an institutional level. So, "race" itself isn't real (though many people believe it is quite real genetically) but "racism" is very real. *Racial identity*: is a social and political construction where is racism a social, political, and economic *reality*.
Next, keeping in mind the notion that race is an ideological invention -- I *do not* profess to define a person's *sense of their own* "whiteness" for them -- meaning, if a person sees themselves as white then I would not tell them they were wrong -- that's not my place. If a person sees themselves as *not* white, I wouldn't dispute that either -- again, it's not up to me to *tell* anyone what their racial identity is (or gender identity is etc.,).
I *do* make a distinction between someone's *perceived* racial identity and whether or not they access *white privilege*.
For example, as you point out -- there are people that belong to a variety of racial/cultural/ethnic groups -- folks born inside *and* outside the U.S. -- people who consider themselves multi-racial *or* biracial because they have one parent who racially identifies as one race and another parent who racially identifies as another race (Ex. a Puerto Rican woman who has a child with an African American man, for example) *OR* they have parents who are themselves multi-racial or bi-racial (Ex. a woman of Haitian, Filipino and South Asian descent who has a child with a man who is of Egyptian, Iraqi, and Norwegian descent).
In the U.S. context -- a person who self-identifies as multiracial, biracial, a person of color *OR* a European "mutt" (i.e., a mixture of various European ethnicities such as French, Italian, Finnish etc.,) may be *perceived* (or viewed) as white by people of various backgrounds. So, no matter how that person sees themselves -- they are treated a certain way because of how *other people see them*. That treatment translates into a slew of racial benefits/privileges/advantages if/when that person is read/viewed as/believed to be "white" -- no matter how that person views themselves.
Third, the census permits "Hispanics" or "Latinos" to define themselves as "white" or "non-white," and thus, acknowledges that many Hispanics and Latinos self-identify as white. When I use the term "people of color" I am referring to people who are *perceived/viewed* as non-white *and* people who define themselves as *non-white* despite how they are perceived by others.
**4th) You go on to say: "What impact does class have on “whiteness” – if any at all? "
In the United States, I believe class impacts a person's whiteness, again, with regard to how they are perceived by others *and* how they perceive themselves.
Poor white folks for example -- are frequently and unquestioningly called "white trash" -- (a term that I believe is racist & classist when it is used by those who are *NOT* poor whites *OR* people who are/might be called "white trash". In other words, poor white people can call themselves whatever they want. I am not a poor white person, so I don't use the term in a derogatory way *nor* do I think middle & upper class white people should use the term in a derogatory way.
For me, the term "white trash" is meant to identify a white person that is *doing "whiteness"* badly. Poor white folks do white badly by being poor, for example, because white folks are supposed to tbe the cream of the crop! they are supposed to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps! set an example for those "lazy" black people! they are belong to the group who deserves the best jobs because white people define *competency* and *qualified* for *all* people -- white folks set *the* standard for all that is pure, good and brilliant in the U.S. Therefore, white folks that engage in "white trash" behavior -- or a stereotype of what poor white people behave like -- are *not* living up to standards of "whiteness" that, in large part, middle and upper class white people have defined for *everyone* who is white *and* everyone who is not white. "White trash," so to speak, because of how they dress, speak, and spend their leisure time -- act a lot like African Americans perceived to be behaving badly.
In short, the term "white trash" signifies a *degraded whiteness* -- a kind of "whiteness" that is affixed to a white person's class status.
So, yes, in the United States -- I see class status elevating or diminishing a person's "whiteness" in respect to how that white person sees themselves *and* how a white person views/interprets the behaviors, morals, and even *value* of other white people.
**5th) "What happens when someone of color who is NOT black uses BEV? ... I have met unmistakably white people from poor intercity neighborhoods that speak in the very manner you are describing. These are the parts where THEY are the minority. Are you suggesting that despite the fact that this white individual has grown up in a primarily black community that they should attempt to speak white and that anything else is racist?"
No, I *do not* mean to suggest that at all. White people who grow up in all/mostly black neighborhoods may or may not speak, behave (etc.,) a certain way because of their specific cultural context.
See, I wasn't just talking about white people performing stereotypes of "blackness" -- I was trying to say that there is no such thing as "talking black" or "talking white."
***Alright -- I've got a lot of grading to do so I will have to add any necessary refining points to my response (to your response) later:)
***But here's a teaser:) You say, "Throw away all niceties, the mainstream media pimps black culture to white people. No, it’s not right. Yes, it is racist. But blasting the entire white community without facts and figures breaches separatist."
1) When you say the "mainstream media pimps black culture to white people" -- I agree -- *AND* I would add that it isn't just an amorphous "mainstream media" that's doing this -- it's an obscenely wealthy white dominated mainstream media selling black culture to a white audience. The hip hop industry, in particular, is run by white male executives who make billions by exploiting white people's fascination with racist stereotypes of black like.
Yes -- black rappers/black people participate in this racist stereotyping of black people. I believe that institutional racism so limits black people's choices -- so limits their economic opportunities -- that making millions by putting on a minstrel show for a racially diverse audience becomes an attractive gig.
2) When you ask me for statistics verifying what I believe is the frequency with which white folks use (what they perceive as) "black vernacular" -- it feels like you're asking me to *PROVE* that the racism I'm identifying and experiencing exists.
If you want statistical evidence that proves exactly how many white people use stereotypical black speech -- you won't get it from me. I don't have it -- I don't think it's fair for you to ask me for that nor do I believe I need to provide it -- the evidence is everywhere -- it's on tv, in the movies, in magazines, and I experience it so often as a black person I couldn't recount all the instances for you here -- there are simply to many.
You're right, certain exaggerated, stereotypical aspects of African American culture are so integrated into the U.S. American "mainstream" that although I am provoked to roll my eyes when a white person talks to me using the perceived "black" lingo they heard on the radio that morning -- I would exhaust myself if I said something every single time that happened to me.
3) I don't think that *not knowing* something is racist or *not intending to be racist* gets a white person off the hook of having to acknowledge that what they are saying or doing is racist.
All of us are exposed to and internalize all kinds of oppressive messages every single day - messages that encourage our participation in sexism, classism, abelism, xenophobia, racism etc., That's why it's so important that we think critically about these cultural messages. That's why it's so important that we *LISTEN* -- really listen to what the people who are most directly impacted by these oppressions have to say. Because it isn't possible for anyone of us to simply "get it" all by ourselves -- we need to be taught -- we need to welcome the opportunity to learn. We can only learn, though, if we are willing to acknowledge that we *DO NOT* know it all -- that we will make mistakes. And the only way we will become better educated, more aware people with regard to our participation in oppression is by stepping out of our comfort zones and engaging people who are different than us.
4) As for your comment that I "blast the entire white community" or generalize about white folks which borders on "separatist" -- did you mean to say something else there?:) Do you mean "separatist" or do you mean "racist separatist?"
I'll address that comment later.
"S," thanks for engaging me in a VERY lively, interesting, and very complicated discussion -- I always liked that about you:)
Peace, Love and Revolution!
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